traffic_engr
10-03 06:55 PM
Check this out. I've never heard of crew slugging it out at 30000 feet. Not sure if this incident is true
Air India pilots, crew slug it out at 30,000 ft - India Business - Business - NEWS - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/business/india-business/Air-India-pilots-crew-slug-it-out-at-30000-ft/articleshow/5085243.cms)
arunmurthy, nikpatel.c and psaxena - guy's get a room and continue the 3'some.
And YES, i meant fighting :D
this thread has gone way out of scope.
Air India pilots, crew slug it out at 30,000 ft - India Business - Business - NEWS - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/business/india-business/Air-India-pilots-crew-slug-it-out-at-30000-ft/articleshow/5085243.cms)
arunmurthy, nikpatel.c and psaxena - guy's get a room and continue the 3'some.
And YES, i meant fighting :D
this thread has gone way out of scope.
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BlueSkyPro
07-23 09:24 AM
called - but can not vote.
GCBy3000
07-18 10:11 AM
Some people advise to wait and watch and some people ask to do something else. I would like to say one thing and it is purely my perspective. People who are waiting inline for 8-10years does not know when they will be getting their GC in hand. May be in next four to five years. By that time on average their age will be around 35-45.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
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she81
07-18 02:35 PM
Does anyone know if I can file I-485 if my LC is approved before August 17th? Or should it be approved during month of July?
Thanks
Does anyone have an answer for this? Appreciate some response.
Thanks
Does anyone have an answer for this? Appreciate some response.
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Happyday
06-26 12:05 PM
Passes
64 Ayes
35 Nos
The Bill Goes Fwd
Recess till 2.15 PM
64 Ayes
35 Nos
The Bill Goes Fwd
Recess till 2.15 PM
rajchadha
05-19 02:22 PM
Thank you so much guys for your hardwork . I wont be able to make it But just sent a cheque of 250 to local members who are coming to D.C . Thanks again guys
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another one
02-13 07:35 AM
There is no Santa Claus. Let me repeat, there is no Santa Claus.
Open your own forum, invest your own money, invest your own time, get your own following. If all of that seems too much, then rejoice that you are getting to have a lobbyist in DC for $20 a month.
Don't spoil my morning coffee with your whining. This is not an organization that was started because you started contributing, and therefore makes you have a say on leadership.
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
Open your own forum, invest your own money, invest your own time, get your own following. If all of that seems too much, then rejoice that you are getting to have a lobbyist in DC for $20 a month.
Don't spoil my morning coffee with your whining. This is not an organization that was started because you started contributing, and therefore makes you have a say on leadership.
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
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perm2gc
02-08 06:14 PM
Thank you all for the quick and helpful replies.
My current employer has assured me that they will not revoke my LC or I-140. It is a huge company and I think it will stick to its word. It will not have any use for the LC, I-140 anyway as the whole group was laid off and the product moved to India.
So, it seems that if I transfer to company B they will be able to file for an H1 extension beyond 6 years based on I-140 approved with company A. I can then start my GC process with B again while keeping my old priority date.
Once again, all your replies were immensely helpful.
Thanks
Good Luck..Hope to see you often in immigration voice and spread the word about immigration voice.
My current employer has assured me that they will not revoke my LC or I-140. It is a huge company and I think it will stick to its word. It will not have any use for the LC, I-140 anyway as the whole group was laid off and the product moved to India.
So, it seems that if I transfer to company B they will be able to file for an H1 extension beyond 6 years based on I-140 approved with company A. I can then start my GC process with B again while keeping my old priority date.
Once again, all your replies were immensely helpful.
Thanks
Good Luck..Hope to see you often in immigration voice and spread the word about immigration voice.
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acecupid
05-31 10:28 PM
Well one can avoid Air France if it 'makes you feel better'
The Crux of the matter is 'Indians discriminate Indians !!!!'. You see that everyday.....
1.Indian embassies in US...
2.Air India service is better for Goras and Goris than us...
3.Even in a website called IV and the list goes on and on.
Its been long forgotten that we were once the richest country in the world with a amazing history and cultural background.
Bottom line: Once a fellow Indian starts respecting another fellow Indian 'others will follow'.
Cheers!!!
By not standing up for your fellow indian and boycotting AF you are dis-respecting your fellow indian since you dont seem to care about the racist experience they had. So how are you different from "indians who discriminate indians" ? :confused: Just because we had a legacy of caste system doesnt mean you dont have to stand up for what is wrong. Your indifferent attitude/actions seems to contradict your own statements.
The Crux of the matter is 'Indians discriminate Indians !!!!'. You see that everyday.....
1.Indian embassies in US...
2.Air India service is better for Goras and Goris than us...
3.Even in a website called IV and the list goes on and on.
Its been long forgotten that we were once the richest country in the world with a amazing history and cultural background.
Bottom line: Once a fellow Indian starts respecting another fellow Indian 'others will follow'.
Cheers!!!
By not standing up for your fellow indian and boycotting AF you are dis-respecting your fellow indian since you dont seem to care about the racist experience they had. So how are you different from "indians who discriminate indians" ? :confused: Just because we had a legacy of caste system doesnt mean you dont have to stand up for what is wrong. Your indifferent attitude/actions seems to contradict your own statements.
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walking_dude
10-15 03:00 PM
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H4_losing_hope
02-15 03:12 PM
Folks this is great news!! I agree, we are all winners in the end!!! :) But don't go trying to beat me now abhijitp haha just kidding :D
It's the weekend folks, let's print out some template letters and ask friends for 1 minute of their time.
Let's keep up the momentum, March 1st will be here before we know it.
It's the weekend folks, let's print out some template letters and ask friends for 1 minute of their time.
Let's keep up the momentum, March 1st will be here before we know it.
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eb3_nepa
07-28 04:41 PM
First off i take offence to my spouse being called a "Skill-Less Free Rider". That is by far the most offensive and ridiculous thing anyone has said about H4s. Most spouses on H4 are neither skill-less nor are they here solely for their Green Cards. Infact there are cases where the H4 is More qualified than the primary H1 applicant in their own field, just that it is not an H1b type field or there is no H1B quota etc.
It would be great if the moderators can please remove such offensive stuff when they get a chance. It is one thing to have freedom of speech and it is another to abuse that freedom.
If L2's can work then why not H4s is my simple point. I wonder if we can ask for these kind of smaller reliefs from the law-makers.
It would be great if the moderators can please remove such offensive stuff when they get a chance. It is one thing to have freedom of speech and it is another to abuse that freedom.
If L2's can work then why not H4s is my simple point. I wonder if we can ask for these kind of smaller reliefs from the law-makers.
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abhijitp
02-15 03:15 PM
Folks this is great news!! I agree, we are all winners in the end!!! :) But don't go trying to beat me now abhijitp haha just kidding :D
It's the weekend folks, let's print out some template letters and ask friends for 1 minute of their time.
Let's keep up the momentum, March 1st will be here before we know it.
I am now on my toes... just sent a template to some folks who I never felt would sign it, but doesn't hurt taking a chance:)
Anything for "Admin relief"!
It's the weekend folks, let's print out some template letters and ask friends for 1 minute of their time.
Let's keep up the momentum, March 1st will be here before we know it.
I am now on my toes... just sent a template to some folks who I never felt would sign it, but doesn't hurt taking a chance:)
Anything for "Admin relief"!
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H4_losing_hope
02-09 05:45 PM
Thanks for you support on Immigration Portal. There were some good convincing words spoken from you and some other good people. Goodness will prevail :)
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gagbag
06-14 12:10 PM
My hearty congratulations to all the "LEGAL" workers who can file the 485 on July 1. Also to those who now have some hope in "LEGAL" process.
I consider this movement as a lottery to people who came here legally and had the patience to go through the painstaking process.
Moving on I think we need to understand the following aspects:
1. Implication on H1 B requirement / extension during this process
2. Impact on Travel to home country during this process
3. Processing timeline of recurring EAD and Green Card
My views are that due to enormous amount of applications coming in this and next month 485 department will be over allocated and we will certainly see a back log moving from "priority dates" to actually getting the EAD and other docs. So it might actaully result in a year - year long wait just for getting EAD.
I am not also clear on when can travel back and forth to India with 485 pending.Finally do I need H1 B when I have EAD or not.
Hope this forum has many people with these questions now.
But again this is huge day for immigrants especially Indians as we were the most backlogged in the whole world. Make sure you book medical appointments as there going to be a bombadment for these requests.
Gagan:D :)
I consider this movement as a lottery to people who came here legally and had the patience to go through the painstaking process.
Moving on I think we need to understand the following aspects:
1. Implication on H1 B requirement / extension during this process
2. Impact on Travel to home country during this process
3. Processing timeline of recurring EAD and Green Card
My views are that due to enormous amount of applications coming in this and next month 485 department will be over allocated and we will certainly see a back log moving from "priority dates" to actually getting the EAD and other docs. So it might actaully result in a year - year long wait just for getting EAD.
I am not also clear on when can travel back and forth to India with 485 pending.Finally do I need H1 B when I have EAD or not.
Hope this forum has many people with these questions now.
But again this is huge day for immigrants especially Indians as we were the most backlogged in the whole world. Make sure you book medical appointments as there going to be a bombadment for these requests.
Gagan:D :)
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Legal
07-03 05:27 PM
:D This bill will be passed for sure before August. You and me are not behind this. Microsoft, CISCO and Oralce are the ones indirectly calling the shots. Anti immigrant groups can just talk and shout. Money($$$) will show it in action. Wait and Watch.
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rego
02-13 03:32 PM
IV Seniors,
Please advise how this can be accelerated.
Please advise how this can be accelerated.
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Excerpts from same site http://pubweb.fdbl.com/news1.nsf/9abe5d703b986cff86256e310080943a/9c1274840ebee3c3852572eb006fde98?OpenDocument
Reallocation of Immigrant Visa Numbers
Immigrant visa quotas would be substantially realigned under S. 1348. Our current law provides for a baseline annual quota of 140,000 immigrant visas for foreign nationals immigrating on the basis of employment. In the past several years, a backlog has developed in several employment-based immigrant categories, with multiyear waits for some prospective immigrant workers. The Senate bill would, in the first five years after enactment, increase the quota for merit-based and employment-based cases, in part to address existing backlogs. An estimated 247,000 numbers would be available for work-related immigration. Beginning in the sixth fiscal year after enactment, however, the quota would drop to 140,000 numbers per year. This level would remain in place for at least two years, until approximately the eighth year after enactment, when the quota would rise to a baseline of 380,000 per year, with additional numbers made available for previously undocumented immigrants who become eligible to apply for permanent residence.
Is the interpretation of current Bill (without amendment) is correct for the work related immigration?
This looks like good news. This says work related immigration would get 247000 instead of 90000. Who is misinterpreting the bill?
Reallocation of Immigrant Visa Numbers
Immigrant visa quotas would be substantially realigned under S. 1348. Our current law provides for a baseline annual quota of 140,000 immigrant visas for foreign nationals immigrating on the basis of employment. In the past several years, a backlog has developed in several employment-based immigrant categories, with multiyear waits for some prospective immigrant workers. The Senate bill would, in the first five years after enactment, increase the quota for merit-based and employment-based cases, in part to address existing backlogs. An estimated 247,000 numbers would be available for work-related immigration. Beginning in the sixth fiscal year after enactment, however, the quota would drop to 140,000 numbers per year. This level would remain in place for at least two years, until approximately the eighth year after enactment, when the quota would rise to a baseline of 380,000 per year, with additional numbers made available for previously undocumented immigrants who become eligible to apply for permanent residence.
Is the interpretation of current Bill (without amendment) is correct for the work related immigration?
This looks like good news. This says work related immigration would get 247000 instead of 90000. Who is misinterpreting the bill?
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dixie
07-17 11:45 PM
This clever trick isnt going to work forever. I understand a lot of you have already spent 8-9 years here waiting for a GC, but fresh H1-Bs like me fully know what the situation is and are mentally prepared with alternative plans for career advancement. Our strategy is to save like ants while here, make mimimal investments, apply for a GC and wait. If no reform is forthcoming, we will give up on the US as a long term option and head out much before we give the prime of our working careers to a dead-end job in this country.
If a majority of the H1-Bs do that, what will the tech companies do ? They will be forced to send more jobs to our home countries. Come on, you cannot do all your work with fresh-off-the-boat H1Bs .. experience will always be needed. If they cannot get those experienced folks here, the jobs will simply go where we are (and will get done for an even lower price of course).It is already happening; retrogression will only accelerate it. Such a situation effectively amounts to training foreign workers, paying them and sending them home. It is a no-brainer who the real loser is in such a bargain : yes, it is us in the short term, but ultimately the US economy will pay a price.
Current immigration policy is based on the assumption that our home countries will forever remain poor, and the US will have a never-ending stream of smart, hard-working people desperate to settle here. In a globalized world, that is fast becoming outdated.Sooner congress realises the better.
Let us fact it. We need GCs and we have waited for x years. Now that only seems to be illusion that may happen some day, many years from now. Have we contributed to this country. Yes in many folds.
Will the US govt provide relief. Probably not. They will certainly
raise H1bs as they need more contributors to SS. All this SKIL etc is just to keep us going for a few more years. After a few more years, many will give up, but get used to living the way we live now. We just wont have the energy to complain. After a while it is human nature, at least in most cases to accept. If we accept we will continue here hoping, some day GC will happen. I believe the majority will fall into this category. There maybe a few who will leave. But then there will be thousand more new H1b coming in to do the work, chasing the GC illusion, contributing to SS, buying cars, paying rents keeping the economy going. The lawyers will make money. Employers will get indentured workers. The economy will benefit from their productivity. So all concerned except you and me will be OK.
They understand the circle of life better than you and I do. It is about time we understand this. Once this sinks in, we will make the right choice, whet ever that maybe.
If a majority of the H1-Bs do that, what will the tech companies do ? They will be forced to send more jobs to our home countries. Come on, you cannot do all your work with fresh-off-the-boat H1Bs .. experience will always be needed. If they cannot get those experienced folks here, the jobs will simply go where we are (and will get done for an even lower price of course).It is already happening; retrogression will only accelerate it. Such a situation effectively amounts to training foreign workers, paying them and sending them home. It is a no-brainer who the real loser is in such a bargain : yes, it is us in the short term, but ultimately the US economy will pay a price.
Current immigration policy is based on the assumption that our home countries will forever remain poor, and the US will have a never-ending stream of smart, hard-working people desperate to settle here. In a globalized world, that is fast becoming outdated.Sooner congress realises the better.
Let us fact it. We need GCs and we have waited for x years. Now that only seems to be illusion that may happen some day, many years from now. Have we contributed to this country. Yes in many folds.
Will the US govt provide relief. Probably not. They will certainly
raise H1bs as they need more contributors to SS. All this SKIL etc is just to keep us going for a few more years. After a few more years, many will give up, but get used to living the way we live now. We just wont have the energy to complain. After a while it is human nature, at least in most cases to accept. If we accept we will continue here hoping, some day GC will happen. I believe the majority will fall into this category. There maybe a few who will leave. But then there will be thousand more new H1b coming in to do the work, chasing the GC illusion, contributing to SS, buying cars, paying rents keeping the economy going. The lawyers will make money. Employers will get indentured workers. The economy will benefit from their productivity. So all concerned except you and me will be OK.
They understand the circle of life better than you and I do. It is about time we understand this. Once this sinks in, we will make the right choice, whet ever that maybe.
BornConfused
07-03 04:13 PM
Never mind.. your name suits you...
I am stressing on July 2 as the date due to the new bulletin... Anyway, dont bother replying..
Pay attention more to something when you read and ask your questions better (or at least elaborate before you reply with something like the above gem). And, since I suspect this is part of the problem look up "hypothetical". The correct term should have been "on or after July 2" not "after July 2". I didn't bother to sit there and make sure it was perfectly clear since I assumed readers would get it. Obviously, some are slow:D Peace
I am stressing on July 2 as the date due to the new bulletin... Anyway, dont bother replying..
Pay attention more to something when you read and ask your questions better (or at least elaborate before you reply with something like the above gem). And, since I suspect this is part of the problem look up "hypothetical". The correct term should have been "on or after July 2" not "after July 2". I didn't bother to sit there and make sure it was perfectly clear since I assumed readers would get it. Obviously, some are slow:D Peace
jungalee43
09-28 11:36 AM
By waiting you are doing the same mistake that I did last year. My AC21 RFE was mailed to my previous employer's attorney. They promptly mailed it to me. But I did not get it for one month. In the mean while my priority date became current and I thought that attorney was playing games with me.
After waiting for one month I went to my post office and lodged a written complaint. In two hours the notice popped up in my mail box.
What had happened was that the mail man had simply delivered the notice in mail box 5617 instead of 5616 and no one was living in apartment 5617 and no one picked it up.
By the way, with that much delay I missed the 2007 bus.
My attorney called them and requested the copy of Denial notice as well as asked them for faxing it.
Still not received anything.
Not sure what to do except waiting.
Irony is that all notice reaches on time except denial notice. Seems like they are trying to eliminate backlog by doing some tricks
After waiting for one month I went to my post office and lodged a written complaint. In two hours the notice popped up in my mail box.
What had happened was that the mail man had simply delivered the notice in mail box 5617 instead of 5616 and no one was living in apartment 5617 and no one picked it up.
By the way, with that much delay I missed the 2007 bus.
My attorney called them and requested the copy of Denial notice as well as asked them for faxing it.
Still not received anything.
Not sure what to do except waiting.
Irony is that all notice reaches on time except denial notice. Seems like they are trying to eliminate backlog by doing some tricks
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