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  • wahwah
    11-14 10:50 PM
    probably the best post i've seen on this board. good points....I did sometime back.

    Given thanksgiving is barely a week away, we can be certain of the usual platitudes directed at immigrants - this is a good time to remind the average American how far they have strayed from their roots and forgotten the true sentiment behind the tradition. Immigrants have always been hated and reviled by those that got here earlier - but the current anti-immigrant sentiment is vastly different in scale and sophistry due to the times we live in. If every IV member signs up 10 citizens to the immigrant cause, we should easily be 100,000 strong in a couple of weeks. It could be anyone from your advisor at school who mentored you to your buddies at work - even the stinkin relatives should be harassed. Though CIS and Numbersusa pretend that they are a product of the current anti-illegal sentiment, they started out much before the so-called 'wave' started. And they have adapted and honed their strategies very well to crush whatever relief Congress contemplates/passes. Consider the way CIS was initially dedicated to 'researching' immigrant issues that they would complain about the media's positive stories about immigrant contributions as merely anecdotal evidence not worthy of rebuttal. Now they are suddenly fond of anecdotal evidence themselves since experts began demolishing their claims of job-stealing and other baseless charges convincingly(esp CFR's Sebastian Mallaby) using empirical evidence-they shamelessly stoop to use someone's sob story to make their case. So, as repugnant as their motives are, they are too transparent for their own good- and they can't cover their tracks -which is good for us since we are appealing to the fair minded. Remember - every one in the US is an immigrant or an offspring of one. They have always been hated and reviled -so if someone who benefited from the immigrant tradition of this nation wants to turn around and deny it to those following him/her even though their ancestors did the same thing at a great emotional/economic cost to the then existing natives- they have a higher bar in explaining why the current bunch shouldn't continue to benefit from the great tradition-merely being bigoted but sophisticated enough to hide it isn't enough. so don't lose heart but dont sit on your ass either.





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  • franklin
    09-21 08:58 PM
    I didn't attended because recently I had a new boss and he was monitoring my daily schedule and being in H1b and coming so close to filing I-485, I was just waiting for my EAD or I-485 cheques to get encashed. On 21st Sep, they got encashed. Now I am bold enough to take a day or two as vacation and attend rally if organized in eastern part.

    I did paid 50% travel cost to one of our member from CA.

    Sorry for not attending this time, will do it next time.

    Another perfectly valid reason - thank you for helping someone go in your place :)

    I can guarantee first hand - those CA to DC flights aren't cheap





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  • Legal
    07-10 04:43 PM
    Isn't this old news? has been around for a while???





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  • kumhyd2
    07-18 08:04 PM
    If some one has applied for labor substitution for a better PD and I-140 a week back and wants to now file I-485 without the I-140 reciept. I guess the advise was that one can go for it. The question now is as the I-140 was filed a couple of days back does he need to provide the employment letter which in this substitution case is difficult unless the new substitution employer is willing to give. In such scenario can one file I-485 with out the employment letter.



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  • starscream
    06-19 06:26 PM
    The word on the street is that the Cantwell amendment is not a part of the list of amendments that are currently floating around in Senate offices. There are 20 of them.

    Even Bernie Sanders has one more coming (Yes, it is related to H1B). But Cantwell amendment is not there in the list of 20.

    Here is the list of 20 amendments floating around in the Senate:

    Democratic Amendments

    1199 Dodd ---- Family parent visas

    1313 Webb ---- Community ties for Zs

    1236 Baucus-Tester ---- Strike all reference to REAL ID

    1332 Sanders ---- Employers to certify no mass layoff

    1344 Byrd ---- Border security immigration fee

    1317 Menendez ---- Increased family points in merit system

    1340 Brown ---- Employers post job at state agency

    1468 McCaskill ---- Repeat violators who hire undocumented workers

    1486 Levin ---- Iraqi religious minority refugees

    1386 Leahy ---- Refugee Scholars (may instead be 1289 on EB-5 investors)

    ____ Schumer ---- Tamper-proof biometric social security card (no language yet)

    1198 Boxer ---- Reducing Y visa cap by number of Y workers who overstay



    Republican Amendments

    1161 Alexander ---- Oath of allegiance for naturalization (may move to manager’s package)

    1255 Bond ---- Prohibits green cards for Z holders

    1473 Coleman ---- information sharing/sanctuary cities (Coleman is redrafting, new language not available)

    1335/1258 Domenici ---- Federal judgeship increase (redrafting)

    1490 Ensign ---- Preclusion of social security benefits

    1465 Graham ---- Enforcement, plus other potential agreed upon amendments folded in (redrafting, content not clear)

    1441 Grassley-Baucus Obama ---- Strike and replace Title III (small changes possible)

    1440 Hutchison ---- Touchback/strike and replace title vi (redrafting)

    1174 Thune ---- Probationary legal status triggers

    1318 Chambliss ---- Totalization agreement

    1282 Isakson ---- Preemption/Home Depot (redrafting)

    ------ Graham Criminal penalties/mandatory minimums for overstays
    Logic Life -where did you get this list from





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  • senthil1
    06-20 10:32 AM
    If bill is passed Senate in 2007 it will pass current form for H1b. There is possiblity for failing of the bill is 75% now. Also even if Cantwell amendment is passed that will give relief only to high tech companies not for Hospitals or Health care. There is no other amendment other than Cantwell for H1b or GC relief in Senate
    Only unknown is how House will handle. Now house is confident that Senate will not pass CIR(Infact house members think they can escape from this hot button issue)

    But I am almost certain that Most persons who file I485 within next 6 months will get GC within 1 to 5 years whether CIR is passed or not.



    is UNLIKELY to pass at least in its current form. Public hospitals, underserved area clinics, Universities are not Google and Oracle!!! They'll go under if they have to pay 5000 $ for H1Bs. People probably don't have the faintest idea under what kind of financial strain these are. There will be exemptions for universities and non-profit organizations.



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  • LCtank
    09-20 02:02 PM
    I work for a big company in the SV and I know at least 100+ Indians and Chinese there, but when I showed up in the San Jose rally I didn't see any of them.

    Yeah Macaca
    That hurts to see so many people using IV for tracking receipts on the day of the rally but not participating in the struggle IV is putting up just for them!!
    But know what I think as members we have really considered all of them as one..! I mean.. we should have given special attention to DC and the neighbouring states to fetch in max people.. 'coz we can depend on them for proximity..! we have majorly focussed on getting people from various states..well that again paid off .. 'coz news articles particularly mentioned people flew in from states as far as CA etc..

    We cannot consider a person from texas or seattle to be the same as one in DC / VA .. Its definitely hard to convince to attend a rally .. how can we convince to take a day/2 off and travel leaving family and rest !!
    Its sounds good and practical for some but many others will not concur!
    I think we learn from our doings...! we should next time try and rope in as many locals as possible than depend on people coming from afar!





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  • vbkris77
    03-05 09:37 AM
    What we get

    1. We get number of EB2,EB3 Primary and EB2,EB3 Dependent applications.

    2. From the wordings, I won't be suprized if they give a summarized number from 2001.

    But if someone else requested this info broken into PD buckets by month and Year, then I think we need to use that. The letter I sent had that wording, but I never received any response yet.

    Here is what we don't get

    1. Break up by country - Helps folks in EB3 as ROW is not current

    2. Some might have not applied for AOS for various reason like their I140 is still pending, Some companies mandate that. - This could be a small percentage

    3. Break-up by PD month& year

    More insight is welcome.. Pre-adjudicated cases are not approved cases. So they can't eliminate them..


    I have received a response on my request last year to USCIS for information on number of AOS applications pending. Here it is:
    --------------------------------------
    February 24, 2009
    NRC2008065126

    We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
    - EB-2 China
    - EB-2 India
    - EB-3 China
    - EB-3 India
    - EB-3 Mexico
    - EB-3 Philippines
    - EB-3 Rest of the World

    Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.

    In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.

    In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
    _____________

    NRC2008065126
    Page 2

    E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
    E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
    E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
    E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
    E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
    E28 CHILD OF ES6
    E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
    E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
    E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
    E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
    E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
    E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
    E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
    E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37

    Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?

    Please define priority date.

    You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.

    If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.

    Sincerely,

    T. Diane Cejka
    Director

    ___________________________

    I will post a scan tomorrow

    From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.

    Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)



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  • risker
    07-20 05:40 PM
    I am with you buddy, but u have to understand
    1. AILF will not file such case as they dont have big numbers of people supporting it as plaintiff
    2. Your reasons are justified but you forgot one thing: US govt agencies (whether it is USCIS, DOS or DOL) treat immigrants as with the principle "beggars are not choosers", so per them you as an individual and your feelings doesnt matter much
    3. Try to think positively, even though everyone will file 485 now but come Oct and if your labor is approved by that time you will be much ahead of everyone and you will not loose your place in the line. I am sure u will get GC approval before most of the July filers

    Stay positive, stay calm. May God bless you!!

    Again, sorry to say, but you are looking for excuses. I am looking for reasons. I know there are enough people out there to support this case. It is a simple matter of people spreading the word and jumping into the bandwagon.

    I don't care whether they consider us as beggers or kings or whatever. It doesn't matter to me. It is a justified case and we have to put up a fight.

    So please don't give excuses. That is not what I am looking for here. We might have a 1000 excuses for not filing a case, but only one reason to file it. We want justice. This can't go unheard or unnoticed.





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  • chmur
    11-17 04:32 PM
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    please be constructive in your role, we can use your energy and enthusiasm, but an attitude of engagement is critical rather than asking why iv core is not doing this or that.....

    Thanks Paskal,

    I will....and get some work done like setting up the IV-NE yahoogroups, crafting the initial pitch for nebraska members , and get some members recruited etc and will take it from there.


    My only point is, this 1% of active members can politely direct others to state chapters , notwithstanding the frustrating attitude of some of the "Highly skilled"- arm chair critics.




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  • pappu
    05-19 01:07 PM
    Dear Members,

    We have worked hard in the last 4 years and have made some progress along the way Immigration Voice Achievements (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=47) But Most of us are still in the limbo of green card process and waiting in different stages. Some of us may have advanced to the I-485 stage and have a little more career flexibility but the hanging sword of uncertainty still looms over our heads.

    Our angst, our insecurity:

    Even with EAD and other options, lack of green card is lack of security and lack of certainty. You know it and you feel it every day. In order to find a permanent fix for the uncertainty, angst and insecurity and in order to snap out of the probationary lifestyle and career, we have to finish what we started over 4 years ago -- get the U.S. Congress to act on this problem and solve it once and for all.

    Early effort wins:

    The first agenda of next Congress will be immigration and we expect an immigration bill to be debated sometime in early 2011. However, it would be a big mistake to wait until that time to do something about that bill. Successful advocacy efforts are the ones that start early and introduce concepts and ideas into the debate before the legislators write their first draft. Once the committee hearings and debates begin, it is harder to get changes or fixes into a bill because it requires an amendment to the bill in a politically charged and heated atmosphere. Groups and organizations that wait until the last minute to influence members of congress often fail to achieve results. In order to succeed in next year's immigration bill, we have to begin talking to members of congress now. Remember, the advocacy efforts we did with lobby day and rally in Sept 2007 influenced congress to include our provisions in bipartisan bills introduced in Aug 2008. Legislative things take time.

    How you can help:

    You and help in two different ways:

    Join the advocacy effort in DC on June 7th and 8th. (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1437978-iv-announcement-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-7th-and-8th-june.html) If you have never done this before, we encourage you to help us with this and join us. Immigration voice will arrange the logistics of setting up meetings and arranging the material for you to take to your Congressmen and Senators. We are expecting about 150 immigration voice members to gather in DC and participate in over 200 meetings with Congressmen and Senators.

    Contributing Funds to help finance the effort (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1534974-funding-drive-iv-needs-your-support-for-advocacy-events-in-dc.html). You are most welcome to come to DC and join us but if your job demands are such that you cannot take two days off on June 7th and 8th, then you can still contribute to this effort by contributing financially to Immigration Voice. Many expenses tied to the travel of grassroots members from distant states is being expensed by Immigration Voice. So kindly contribute funds to this effort by clicking on this link. You have an obligation to yourself and your family to plant your career in this country once and for all. EAD and AP, if you have them, are not going to cut it. We are not there yet. And we have to finish together what we started together.

    Thank you.

    Immigration Voice. (www.immigrationvoice.org).





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  • cin45220
    03-26 01:07 PM
    Just to add.... porting process is legit for EB-2 as well. EB-1 is current now. :p

    ***
    The Indian CRAB is the story of how a fisherman kept a basket with crabs, uncovered. When asked, he replied " They’re Indian Crabs - If one tries to climb out, the others will pull it back in, hence there’s no need for a lid "
    ***
    The Indian CRAB - Contribute - MSNIndia (http://content.msn.co.in/MSNContribute/Story.aspx?PageID=222e21f3-f981-4a9c-9f9b-a5706f249433)



    The CRAB STORY also applies to EB3. Whenever somebody talks about spillover to EB2, all the EB3s are against spillover and making comments that it's not happening this year. It feels like EB3s do not want EB2s to get GCs. If porting is legit, then spillover is also legit and EB3s need to accept that.

    Porting was always there and porting must not be more than 300/quarter this year (other wise EB2 PD dates would have retrogressed or gone back). Porting was not something started in FY2011 or FY2010. However, I do accept that the frequency of EB3-EB2 porting has increased slightly due to more US companies outsourcing IT jobs (bad economy -> more outsourcing to reduce costs{check the stock of CTSH!} -> demand for consultants -> resulting in firms like CTSH and small consulting companies agreeing to EB3-EB2 porting to keep talent). Outsourcing will not always result in all the US jobs to completely move to outsourced countries (I guess smart people in this forum already know that).

    There will be spillover this year and EB2 PD reaching DEC 2006 by end of FY2011 is a real possiblity. There is no need for EB2s to get all worked up when somebody ports or EB3s to get worked up when somebody talks about spillover. There is GC pie for everybody. Just be patient or do something to solve fundamental problems with GC process ( by participating in IV campaign).


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  • garybanz
    09-19 05:52 PM
    Guys,
    Firstly thanks for the great show at DC, we are really beginning to bring this issue to the fore front. I could not attend myself but I did make a small contribution as a token of my support. However we should capitalize on the momentum and follow this up with some thing more substantial so that every one knows that this was not a one off spark but is a clear growing fire.

    I guess (just by reading posts on IV) one point which came out pretty clearly was that IV has good support in some regions and really very little support in some others (support as in visible support, where people are willing to show up for rallies, contribute to IV�s efforts etc), I guess this pretty much means that we need to focus on building the regional chapters of IV, like have strong/formal leadership and goals of each of the chapters.

    I was also thinking that we can possibly learn a lot from the protests by undocumented immigrants. They had record turnouts in their rallies and most of their people stayed away from work to take part in the efforts when ever there was a call for the same.

    I thought which keeps hitting me is about a simultaneous rally in all major US cities? I know that undocumented immigrants did this and that really worked for them and once again this will build our regional chapters coz the onus will clearly be on each of the regional chapters to achieve targets (target in terms of membership, turnout in rallies, fund raisings etc ) set by IV

    Some of the advantages of having simultaneous local rallies is that
    1) No travel expenses � (So that we can spend more money on media and lobbying than travel expenses)
    2) No need to time spent on travel � ( Better turnouts)
    3) Comfort � every one can just go to a local rally point (Better turnouts)
    4) Stronger regional chapters � (work at grass root levels)

    Also if this can be done on a Saturday then I am sure the turn out will be much better.

    What do you think?

    Regards.





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  • ivar
    07-17 10:21 PM
    I am happy for everyone who can file I-485 but its okay if some one who cannot shows frustration. We as a community should understand each other instead of banning.



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  • migboy
    07-23 11:30 AM
    Don't take me the wrong way, these guys sure are very nice, but just because he filed in July without a receipt does NOT mean anything. It's not like his 485 has been approved, and even if it had, that doesn't mean anything either.
    Remember we are dealing with some contractors in the mail room, and without official guidance from USCIS in the form of a field notice, each employee in the mail room could make his arbitrary decisions.

    So, i wouldn't delude myself based on what someone in IV core has done. It MAY sound logical to include the copy of 140 but then as you probably know by know, logic does not apply here :D





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  • Saralayar
    07-01 10:35 AM
    I got the same email this morning and status said EAD was ordered on june 30th.
    I am pretty sure we will get a 2yr EAD but will just have to wait 2 more days to confirm this.... I wonder if they are looking at the current status and if you are on h1b they are issued 1yr and processed it before june 30, while if you are currently on EAD, they kept them until June 30th.. I doubt it but just a theory...
    Your theory is wrong. I am on H1B and not on EAD. My application was recieved on 06/20 and till today no changes.



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  • gaurav_sh
    04-10 03:35 PM
    Chandu, you made me laugh (in a fun way, not in the making fun of you way). Hiding is done inside the closet, not behind it. Maybe lack of clothes is explainable because one is "behind" the closet :)

    On a serious note though, You provided so many ways that money is being raised by running marathons, funding drives etc etc...but come on, where on this website or anywhere else is it mentioned how this money is being spent??

    I have absolutely no right to ask that question because i have never contributed money. But when i am told that I dont have access to this thread or that thread because I am not a donor...I do have the right to question if this organization actually represents all immigrants or just the donors?? If the motto of IV becomes "Change for fairness and justice (For Donors Only)" then it would make a lot more sense to me. But as long as IV keeps on harping that they represent the plight of legal immigrants (which I am) then I do have the right to ask the question ..."What exactly has IV done?"

    Asking the question is never the problem, it may make people uncomfortable but I want people (like yourself) who are contributing to at least ask IV before ranting on people like me (who dont contribute) to support the cause...Supporting the cause is NOT equal to giving IV money. The republicans already tried something similar ..."If you are anti-war, you dont support the troops"..That was fallacious and so are all the personal attacks on the "freeloaders" (like myself ofcourse).

    you got the skills to say right things with right words!!





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  • India_USA
    07-27 10:32 AM
    to gc28262 and maddipati1,

    Thanks for listening, I googgled to see if there are others like me and how the mess was solved.. I dont want to have problems down the line when naturalization comes around.

    If it turns out that GC was indeed approved erroneously, I will return it and that goes without saying...but who can tell how long will re-instating of AOS take and also I wish to know how I can keep my H1 from being denied. Luckily I am still with GC sponsoring employer, but ...still, I did not need all this hassle..

    I know I have received approved RIR Labor in June 2004 (it was for the same category EB3 ROW), but I do not know if the company filed I-140 or not. I will have to dig up old contacts from the company and inquire...But that was 6 yrs ago and I am not sure where people are...
    Anyways, I will try to patienty wait to get the hard copy of whatever USCIS is sending to check for Priority Date, and if it is not what I expect it to be (Nov 2005), I will call TSC to inquire.

    When you are returning the erroneously approved gc, make sure you write a cover letter indicating not just the return but also the need for your AOS to be reinstated as soon as possible and not delay your gc process. Tell them not to mess up your case without being rude..
    Good Luck and keep us informed on the USCIS response.





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  • uma001
    06-13 10:21 PM
    i have not applied for Labour yet
    But i am very for others.
    Congratualtion to all who can file for 485
    Kudos and congrats to IV team for their efforts.





    dixie
    07-03 06:26 AM
    This letter has no mention of the problems regarding permanent residency, it only refers to the H1-B quota issues, we should contact the Congressman Shadegg to clarify that its not just about the H1-B, the problem also lies in the immigration process of skilled workers. If this is not part of his bill then we should urge(request) him to include this.

    PK


    Well thats our fate .. we are always forced to piggyback on a larger issue. With CIR it was illegal immigration, now it is H1-B. But you got to understand that if not for corporate lobbying (who have a heavier stake in H1-Bs) this bill would not have seen the light of day, that too in the house. We got to be thankful we are at least not being treated on par with the illegal aliens .. the broad theme of this bill is highly related to skilled immigration, which is much less controversial than granting citizenship to illegals; not withstanding the tancredos and numbersUSAs who will still be yelling doomsday from the rooftops. Granted we are flying under the radar as usual, but I very much doubt this will be an H1-B only bill without any EB relief.





    njboy
    06-29 09:43 PM
    God bless him



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