raysaikat
01-06 12:35 AM
Couldn't agree more - especially about paying for ANY college here vs. in India.
I studied in IIT (B.Tech), got M.S. and Ph.D. from here and now a professor. My observations/opinions are as follows:
1. Up to class XII, Indian schools are good. However, there are certain fundamental differences. Indian schools teach more material and sometimes more challenging material than U.S. schools. However, the majority of the students end up merely "remembering" and not learning; even in sciences. In general, an average student from an Indian school system would "know" more than an average student from an U.S. high-school, although in my view such "knowledge" (remembering something as a "data") is worthless. However, U.S. school system tends not to kill the curiosity and creativity of the students, which Indian system does. For good and brilliant students, however, there is no clear trend; you can get excellent and creative students from both systems.
2. There are a handful of fine undergraduate institutes in India. The names comes to my mind are IITs, some RECs (Trichi used to be good), Jadavpur Univ., Roorkie, BHU, etc. (although IITs remain at a level higher than the rest). If you include maths, then count ISI's, which are better than IITs. The rest are just crappy. And I know how crappy can they be from my experience. I have the misfortune of teaching 100's of students who come here with an Anna University (or Osmania) B.Tech./B.E. degree in engineering, and knows absolutely nothing. And I am not exaggerating: they cannot write an elementary program in any language (apparently they learn something called "theoretical" computer programming in which they do not actually learn to program); does not know any mathematics (most cannot integrate x*exp(x); one student could not tell me what is f(0.7) by looking at a graph of x vs. f(x)) and cannot operate simple lab equipments. It is just unbelievable! Anyway, moving on.
3. M.S. onwards, Indian Universities are bad. The only quality Institute in India in Engineering at the M.S. level is IISc. You have some more in other science related disciplines like TIFR (not sure if they give M.S. degree). IITs are not good at the M.S. level and beyond (in case you did not know: M.S. students in IITs are called "Matka"s and professors never grade M.S. students in the same scale with the B.Tech students in the fear that most M.S. student would then fail! And this indeed happened; true story.).
There is indeed a severe dearth of qualified Ph.D. graduates in India. I had spoken with the director of Bell Labs in India and he finds it very difficult to find people who can work in R/D as a profession
The basic problem is finding qualified teaching staffs. Professor's salaries, even in IITs, are about 7-10 times lower than what a qualified person with an equivalent degree currently gets in Industry. No wonder they cannot find faculty members (I have---well, at least had---an open faculty position offer from the director of an IIT; they are desperate for good persons). The compensation gap is too large, even considering nice faculty housing in a good place and good community for your family inside the IIT.
By the way, no doubt there are crappy universities in the U.S. as well; especially at the M.S. level since there is no accreditation at the M.S. level.
I studied in IIT (B.Tech), got M.S. and Ph.D. from here and now a professor. My observations/opinions are as follows:
1. Up to class XII, Indian schools are good. However, there are certain fundamental differences. Indian schools teach more material and sometimes more challenging material than U.S. schools. However, the majority of the students end up merely "remembering" and not learning; even in sciences. In general, an average student from an Indian school system would "know" more than an average student from an U.S. high-school, although in my view such "knowledge" (remembering something as a "data") is worthless. However, U.S. school system tends not to kill the curiosity and creativity of the students, which Indian system does. For good and brilliant students, however, there is no clear trend; you can get excellent and creative students from both systems.
2. There are a handful of fine undergraduate institutes in India. The names comes to my mind are IITs, some RECs (Trichi used to be good), Jadavpur Univ., Roorkie, BHU, etc. (although IITs remain at a level higher than the rest). If you include maths, then count ISI's, which are better than IITs. The rest are just crappy. And I know how crappy can they be from my experience. I have the misfortune of teaching 100's of students who come here with an Anna University (or Osmania) B.Tech./B.E. degree in engineering, and knows absolutely nothing. And I am not exaggerating: they cannot write an elementary program in any language (apparently they learn something called "theoretical" computer programming in which they do not actually learn to program); does not know any mathematics (most cannot integrate x*exp(x); one student could not tell me what is f(0.7) by looking at a graph of x vs. f(x)) and cannot operate simple lab equipments. It is just unbelievable! Anyway, moving on.
3. M.S. onwards, Indian Universities are bad. The only quality Institute in India in Engineering at the M.S. level is IISc. You have some more in other science related disciplines like TIFR (not sure if they give M.S. degree). IITs are not good at the M.S. level and beyond (in case you did not know: M.S. students in IITs are called "Matka"s and professors never grade M.S. students in the same scale with the B.Tech students in the fear that most M.S. student would then fail! And this indeed happened; true story.).
There is indeed a severe dearth of qualified Ph.D. graduates in India. I had spoken with the director of Bell Labs in India and he finds it very difficult to find people who can work in R/D as a profession
The basic problem is finding qualified teaching staffs. Professor's salaries, even in IITs, are about 7-10 times lower than what a qualified person with an equivalent degree currently gets in Industry. No wonder they cannot find faculty members (I have---well, at least had---an open faculty position offer from the director of an IIT; they are desperate for good persons). The compensation gap is too large, even considering nice faculty housing in a good place and good community for your family inside the IIT.
By the way, no doubt there are crappy universities in the U.S. as well; especially at the M.S. level since there is no accreditation at the M.S. level.
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08-15 02:17 PM
America has always been a favorite destination for immigrants. .
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satyasrd
08-12 01:22 PM
We all know that these IT companies/ "body shops" will not bear the brunt of this.
It is always the employees who will get distressed. Large organizations will quietly offshore more jobs while smaller ones will charge this from the employee, legal or not.
I pity those who think this will create more jobs for Americans. They are truly ignorant of how the system works.
And like most of you already mentioned, it's funny how a small group (few thousand) of legal immigrants are targeted while millions of illegals (and the companies that hire them) are going untouched !
It is always the employees who will get distressed. Large organizations will quietly offshore more jobs while smaller ones will charge this from the employee, legal or not.
I pity those who think this will create more jobs for Americans. They are truly ignorant of how the system works.
And like most of you already mentioned, it's funny how a small group (few thousand) of legal immigrants are targeted while millions of illegals (and the companies that hire them) are going untouched !
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gcnotfiledyet
06-11 08:42 PM
I just did the math.
I am sure most of you have assets worth of at least $150,000. So if 300,000 are stuck in the backlog. This would mean if these guys leave this country, then that would be $45 trillion loss for USA.
Guys is there a way to get some media publicity of the possible loss of $45 trillion for USA due to US Immigration mess??
CORRECTED => Just corrrected...it should be $45 billion, not trillion......hey still it is a lot of money
For every dollar deposited with banks, they lend $9. Don't know if you factored that in your calculations. It could be loss of $9x$45billion = 405billion. To add the circulating effect of $405billion in economy. For every dollar that is lend, it generates nearly $3-4 into GDP. That will mean nearly loss of $1.6trillion. This is close to 10% of GDP.
I am sure most of you have assets worth of at least $150,000. So if 300,000 are stuck in the backlog. This would mean if these guys leave this country, then that would be $45 trillion loss for USA.
Guys is there a way to get some media publicity of the possible loss of $45 trillion for USA due to US Immigration mess??
CORRECTED => Just corrrected...it should be $45 billion, not trillion......hey still it is a lot of money
For every dollar deposited with banks, they lend $9. Don't know if you factored that in your calculations. It could be loss of $9x$45billion = 405billion. To add the circulating effect of $405billion in economy. For every dollar that is lend, it generates nearly $3-4 into GDP. That will mean nearly loss of $1.6trillion. This is close to 10% of GDP.
navkap
07-15 11:19 PM
Count me in ---- I am in southern CA (in beautiful Los Angeles Area)
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chanduv23
11-17 03:07 PM
Chandu, did you get a chance to read this thread on RG's forums?
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6461
so atleast we can say that there is a different opinion exists among attorney's too, than one of that RK's.
As mentioned in some of the above posts,
1. PPL mentioned successful renewal of EAD while MTR was filed.
2. PPL reported been able to continue working while 485 was in appeal due to invocation of 140 by previous employer after 180 days of 485.
So, I am sure there is something that is mis-guiding us here. As suggested above, Do you think if sending an email to CIS ombudsman as an individual would help? or can we do it under IV's banner if that is more effective? Suggestions?
desi - I am not sure how we do that but I personally think if we ask such a thing we are letting USCIS send us denial notice even though they must not send it.
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6461
so atleast we can say that there is a different opinion exists among attorney's too, than one of that RK's.
As mentioned in some of the above posts,
1. PPL mentioned successful renewal of EAD while MTR was filed.
2. PPL reported been able to continue working while 485 was in appeal due to invocation of 140 by previous employer after 180 days of 485.
So, I am sure there is something that is mis-guiding us here. As suggested above, Do you think if sending an email to CIS ombudsman as an individual would help? or can we do it under IV's banner if that is more effective? Suggestions?
desi - I am not sure how we do that but I personally think if we ask such a thing we are letting USCIS send us denial notice even though they must not send it.
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bigboy007
06-02 07:53 PM
Hey Canadian Dream:
I know things might change , i wish this law doesnt pass through at all. But in its form this is interpretation of major members and attorneys in current stage. Please correct me if i am wrong.
I might agree with your conclusion of start date, but Now coming to to cases :
Petetion for an employment based visa = I 140 , that were filed prior to the date of intro ( for our sake its Oct 2008 or May 15 2007 ) that were pending or approved , shall be treated as if such provision remained effective.
An approved petition may server as basis for issuance of an immigrant visa.
and for all people who are still in Labor stage will preserve their priority date.
Now based on this , if you have filed an I140 before the date of enactment what ever it might one should be fine. Once dates becomes current and I140 approved one can file for 485 in previous system.
I dont see any conclusion based on 485 is approved or not its just adjustment of status once PD become current , i think its all 140 that determines you are approved as an immigrant or not.
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40 (2) PENDING AND APPROVED PETITIONS AND APPLICATIONS.�Petitions
41 for an employment-based visa filed for classification under
42 section 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Immigration and Nationality
43 Act (as such provisions existed prior to the enactment of this
44 section) that were filed prior to the date of the introduction of
265
1 the [Insert title of Act] and were pending or approved at the
2 time of the effective date of this section, shall be treated as if
3 such provision remained effective and an approved petition may
4 serve as the basis for issuance of an immigrant visa. Aliens with
5 applications for a labor certification pursuant to section
6 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act shall
7 preserve the immigrant visa priority date accorded by the date
8 of filing of such labor certification application.
I know things might change , i wish this law doesnt pass through at all. But in its form this is interpretation of major members and attorneys in current stage. Please correct me if i am wrong.
I might agree with your conclusion of start date, but Now coming to to cases :
Petetion for an employment based visa = I 140 , that were filed prior to the date of intro ( for our sake its Oct 2008 or May 15 2007 ) that were pending or approved , shall be treated as if such provision remained effective.
An approved petition may server as basis for issuance of an immigrant visa.
and for all people who are still in Labor stage will preserve their priority date.
Now based on this , if you have filed an I140 before the date of enactment what ever it might one should be fine. Once dates becomes current and I140 approved one can file for 485 in previous system.
I dont see any conclusion based on 485 is approved or not its just adjustment of status once PD become current , i think its all 140 that determines you are approved as an immigrant or not.
===========================
40 (2) PENDING AND APPROVED PETITIONS AND APPLICATIONS.�Petitions
41 for an employment-based visa filed for classification under
42 section 203(b)(1), (2), or (3) of the Immigration and Nationality
43 Act (as such provisions existed prior to the enactment of this
44 section) that were filed prior to the date of the introduction of
265
1 the [Insert title of Act] and were pending or approved at the
2 time of the effective date of this section, shall be treated as if
3 such provision remained effective and an approved petition may
4 serve as the basis for issuance of an immigrant visa. Aliens with
5 applications for a labor certification pursuant to section
6 212(a)(5)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act shall
7 preserve the immigrant visa priority date accorded by the date
8 of filing of such labor certification application.
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07-18 12:59 AM
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somegchuh
01-03 04:16 PM
It really depends on who you ask. But my point is if you decide to stay in US in the long run, aren't immigrant divided between their kids and their parents?
I dont think one is necessarily doing kids a dis-service by electing to go back. On the contrary, kids experience tremendous personal growth through interaction with extended family which is not possible in a foreign land.
qualified_trash,
In your case I think the decision is very clear cut. Also, it works really well for you, in the sense that you are not "divided". If your parent and siblings have already left the country you have no reason to go back ever.
yes they are indeed. I took care of this as my sisters and parents have immigrated to New Zealand, work and live happily there and will be covered by a great social security system.
also, they do not need a visa to visit me after they get their citizenship (in the next year or so) and I will not need one to visit them after I get mine in the next decade or so.......... :-))
I dont think one is necessarily doing kids a dis-service by electing to go back. On the contrary, kids experience tremendous personal growth through interaction with extended family which is not possible in a foreign land.
qualified_trash,
In your case I think the decision is very clear cut. Also, it works really well for you, in the sense that you are not "divided". If your parent and siblings have already left the country you have no reason to go back ever.
yes they are indeed. I took care of this as my sisters and parents have immigrated to New Zealand, work and live happily there and will be covered by a great social security system.
also, they do not need a visa to visit me after they get their citizenship (in the next year or so) and I will not need one to visit them after I get mine in the next decade or so.......... :-))
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01-06 11:18 AM
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Mr. Wadhwa holds a B.A. in Computing Studies from the Canberra University in Australia and an MBA from New York University.
Vivek Wadhwa is an Executive in Residence/Adjunct Professor for the Pratt School of Engineering at Duke University and a Wertheim Fellow at the Labor and Worklife Program at the Harvard Law School.
He is also a technology entrepreneur and a columnist for BusinessWeek.com. Wadhwa was named a "Leader of Tomorrow" by Forbes.com, and his company Relativity Technologies was named as one of the 25 "coolest" companies in the world by Fortune Magazine.
Mr. Wadhwa holds a B.A. in Computing Studies from the Canberra University in Australia and an MBA from New York University.
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chi_shark
02-23 01:47 PM
Well, I too had a Infopass last week to check on a Soft LUD on my I-140, I heard slightly different story, they did not say adjudicating the EB application, but Process the EB application, which I guess what they were saying is pre-adjudicating the cases, in the last few weeks with lot of cases being transferred (both EB2/EB3) to different offices, pre-adjudicating the cases makes sense....but hey, we are talking about USCIS here, we never know, whatever you heard could be true too......
One piece of information that made me happy reading your comment was "a directive from the DHS/USCIS that they want to separate the legal stuff from the illegal stuff", this is good news.....but wondering what does legal/illegal mean to USCIS anyway......and how does it help us???
yeah, he did say the legal/illegal stuff... i have a strong feeling that he was just shooting his mouth... i am pretty sure it is standard procedure for them to not allude to something like this... may be he was just not doing it right? only time can tell...
One piece of information that made me happy reading your comment was "a directive from the DHS/USCIS that they want to separate the legal stuff from the illegal stuff", this is good news.....but wondering what does legal/illegal mean to USCIS anyway......and how does it help us???
yeah, he did say the legal/illegal stuff... i have a strong feeling that he was just shooting his mouth... i am pretty sure it is standard procedure for them to not allude to something like this... may be he was just not doing it right? only time can tell...
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bp333
03-04 06:25 PM
After reading all these, got curious and checked status of my cases online after a year. I got a soft lud on my, my wife & son's case on 02/25. Something is definitely happening.
Sorry for being ignorant. How can we determine LUD (last update date) and what is meant my soft LUD ?
Sorry for being ignorant. How can we determine LUD (last update date) and what is meant my soft LUD ?
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srini1976
07-11 09:44 AM
Congrats to all the IV EB2 members who will benefit from the Aug Visa Bulletin. I am so happy for them.
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Macaca
09-12 01:44 PM
Macaca-
If only wait times were as little as 2 yrs and 7 yrs...I might not even be fighting!!!
"Currently it takes 7+ years (after 2+ years on student visa) to become a resident."
This is not true in most cases. The F1 might be for 2 yrs minimum + 1 year EAD + at least 2 yrs on H1B before the GC process starts. Then its 7+ years...
So overall, we are talking 10+ years to get permanant residency in a majority of cases.
I think I am saying what you are saying!
Else what are reasonable numbers? I have added 1 year OPT.
"Skilled immigrants have waited patiently for 2+ years"
Are we just talking about 2 yrs to see if there is going to be some reform?
yes.
If only wait times were as little as 2 yrs and 7 yrs...I might not even be fighting!!!
"Currently it takes 7+ years (after 2+ years on student visa) to become a resident."
This is not true in most cases. The F1 might be for 2 yrs minimum + 1 year EAD + at least 2 yrs on H1B before the GC process starts. Then its 7+ years...
So overall, we are talking 10+ years to get permanant residency in a majority of cases.
I think I am saying what you are saying!
Else what are reasonable numbers? I have added 1 year OPT.
"Skilled immigrants have waited patiently for 2+ years"
Are we just talking about 2 yrs to see if there is going to be some reform?
yes.
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02-25 07:33 AM
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ragz4u
02-05 11:24 AM
Hi All,
I'm new to immigration Voice. I've read abt this in immigration portal and understand that a group of people are leading this. I wish them all the best and i extend my full support. Also i heard that this group is collecting funds. Can someone please point me where would i contribute.
Thanks
RAJ
SWA: Virginia
SWA Receipt Date (Priority Date): October 31,2002
EB2 - RIR
Forwarded to Philadelphia Regional DOL on June 22, 2004
BEC Case Number: P-04282-*****
45 Day Letter Received and Replied : Feb 2005
You can contribute by check/paypal/credit card
I'm new to immigration Voice. I've read abt this in immigration portal and understand that a group of people are leading this. I wish them all the best and i extend my full support. Also i heard that this group is collecting funds. Can someone please point me where would i contribute.
Thanks
RAJ
SWA: Virginia
SWA Receipt Date (Priority Date): October 31,2002
EB2 - RIR
Forwarded to Philadelphia Regional DOL on June 22, 2004
BEC Case Number: P-04282-*****
45 Day Letter Received and Replied : Feb 2005
You can contribute by check/paypal/credit card
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smuggymba
08-23 08:41 AM
see below.. I think you should be OK.
USCIS - Employment-Based Immigration: Second Preference EB-2 (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=816a83453d4a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=816a83453d4a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60a RCRD)
Looks like 10 years experience is required for individuals applying under "Exceptional Ability".
Thanks Kate. Hopefully everything should be ok; I freaked out for a while. Let's see how things go.
USCIS - Employment-Based Immigration: Second Preference EB-2 (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=816a83453d4a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=816a83453d4a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60a RCRD)
Looks like 10 years experience is required for individuals applying under "Exceptional Ability".
Thanks Kate. Hopefully everything should be ok; I freaked out for a while. Let's see how things go.
GotFreedom?
03-13 11:49 AM
Just got the email that Card Production Ordered. I hope it means the GC has been approved. Do any of you know of any situation like this?
This is a awesome news for the old timers. I hope you are not kidding around.
Enjoy your freedom.
PS: Are you sure that the email you received was for 485 and not for other applications such as EAD or AP?
This is a awesome news for the old timers. I hope you are not kidding around.
Enjoy your freedom.
PS: Are you sure that the email you received was for 485 and not for other applications such as EAD or AP?
bond65
08-20 09:36 PM
My husbands DL expires on Oct 1st, 2007. The North Carolina DMV insists that he should have a valid H1B visa stamp in his PP in order to renew the license. He does have a valid H1B extension with I-94 at the bottom till Oct.2009. We dont want to leave the country as we are filing for our I-485's.
Any one in NC have any suggestions?
We recently went got our driving licenses renewed with our H visa extension I-797s. DMV didn't ask for an unexpired visa. All they wanted was a visa stamp in the passport to make sure that we legally entered US.
Any one in NC have any suggestions?
We recently went got our driving licenses renewed with our H visa extension I-797s. DMV didn't ask for an unexpired visa. All they wanted was a visa stamp in the passport to make sure that we legally entered US.
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